Country by Country DNA Genealogy, Global full genome DNA genealogy, how large, how long?


I have not received the DNA invitation yet.  I looked at the tree.  My immediate reactions are (1) Mexico, not a lot of DNA matches, (2) not a lot of trees filled in deep enough (3) lots of people not knowing their families (4) requires extensive international account research. (5) many people with no tree at all (6) about 2% missing fathers for every tree.

I am not being harsh or judgmental. These are the practical realities right now and perhaps for a long time.

I have worked without a break for the last 14 hours and I was exhausted when I started. Just seeing a tree with New Mexico and Mexico roots makes me tired.  I do not have an active account with Ancestry, let alone a World Account and translating records from Mexico is still hard.

It takes months to build up a network of related trees, and encourage people to cooperate. It is all manual work (clicking, typing, reading, searching) on the computer. It is a massive amount of reading and memorization of tiny facts. There is almost no one to help.  If you train someone to work in these problems, they face a lifetime of struggle and frustration.  Whole cultures have to change, and millions of records have to be found, cleaned up and connected and tested. In the US, that has been done by generations of people and tens and hundreds of thousands of volunteers in the Mormon church and elsewhere. It is not as bad as the past, but it probably cannot be solved by a few people like you and me working harder and smarter.

It is a problem of national and international scale.

I have not seen the DNA.  I cannot see which DNA matches you filled in on the father’s side.

Is M___ helping you actively?  Contacting people, adding records, searching, writing, teaching people?

I stopped doing DNA mostly because I could not afford to spend that kind of energy and time any more.  I would do it because “everyone deserves to know their parents” and “everyone deserves to know their roots”. But you and I do not get paid.  I know I have a full time job still that can take up to 100 hours a week and more. With billions of lives at stake.

I have a solution to (Mexico DNA Genealogy), (Puerto Rico DNA Genealogy), (Vietnam DNA Genealogy), (Australia DNA Genealogy), (England DNA Genealogy), and all the rest.  It is simple, except it needs a sustainable global organization that raises hundreds of millions of dollars and continues for  decades.  That is a human organization solution.

I have an alternative solution that uses computers and AIs and full genome DNA and it also is global, requires tens of millions of dollars each year and is more computer intensive. That is slightly less expensive but the project are large. Rather than trying to solve from the leaves into the trunk rather start from the roots, fill in the branches and then do the leaves.

If Ancestry and those companies listened to one voice and worked together, there is a bare chance to do some of it. But many cases are never going to close. Many people for generations will not know their parents, just because there are so many humans.  134 Million more new ones every year and 61 Million dying, many never knowing their parents  and many more never knowing their ancestry.

Is it impossible?  No. Is it bigger than one person can do?  Yes.


If you built the tree you are doing a good job. The tree will grow and improve with time. As the people related find stable parts of the tree to trust and use.

One case that took 5 years and 1000 hours I had to wait five years for a close match to come in that unraveled the whole thing in a day.

Another case that took 5 years and 800 hours, we had to wait for a person in the matches to take interest and fill in a bit of their tree.

You might want to WAIT a year of two. She is young enough and can check the DNA regularly, keep adding DNA matches to the tree, teach and help her extended DNA matches.

OR she and you can help many more easy ones and just try to teach basics so all people are doing enough to stay afloat, and tackle the hard ones over time.
Richard K Collins

About: Richard K Collins

Director, The Internet Foundation Studying formation and optimized collaboration of global communities. Applying the Internet to solve global problems and build sustainable communities. Internet policies, standards and best practices.

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