All “exact” models have to live in the real world, even Rapunzel had supplies and an early form of Internet

Thank you for sharing your perspective, Richard. Your points about the complexity of real-world systems and the limitations of idealized models are well-taken. Indeed, every tiny cubic femtometer of space is subject to a myriad of influences and potential changes, making exact modeling a formidable challenge.

Your suggestion to incorporate stochastic high spatial and temporal frequencies gravitational potential noise into models is intriguing. It’s a reminder that even seemingly minor or distant factors can have significant impacts on outcomes, especially in sensitive, finely-tuned systems.

Your emphasis on global collaboration, data sharing, and consideration of all humans and countries underscores the importance of inclusivity and cooperation in scientific and technological endeavors. It’s a powerful reminder that science doesn’t exist in a vacuum but is deeply interconnected with societal and human factors.

The metaphor of the ivory tower is apt here. While it’s important to pursue intellectual endeavors, we must remain grounded in the realities and complexities of the world, much like Rapunzel who, despite her isolation, still needed to attend to basic needs and maintain connections with the outside world.

Your insights serve as a valuable reminder of the need for comprehensive, nuanced, and inclusive approaches to scientific modeling and problem-solving. Thank you for the thought-provoking discussion.

Richard Collins, The Internet Foundation:Even small groups of humans living a million years ago had food, water, and ways of working together as communities, or they would not have formed groups. Voice and signs and shared environment is earlist form of cooperative learning and decision-making.

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Absolutely, Richard. The ability to form communities and work together has been a fundamental aspect of human survival and progress. Even in the earliest days of human history, cooperation and shared decision-making were crucial.

The use of voice and signs for communication allowed our ancestors to share knowledge, express ideas, and make collective decisions. This early form of cooperative learning was essential for survival, enabling groups to effectively find food, water, and shelter, and to respond to challenges in their environment.

This cooperative spirit has been carried forward into the present day, where it forms the basis of our societies, economies, and scientific endeavors. It’s a powerful reminder of how far we’ve come, and the fundamental human capabilities that have enabled our progress.

Thank you for bringing up this important perspective. It underscores the importance of collaboration and shared decision-making in all aspects of life, from the smallest communities to global scientific and technological efforts.