{"id":16529,"date":"2024-08-20T14:48:13","date_gmt":"2024-08-20T14:48:13","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=16529"},"modified":"2024-08-20T15:17:45","modified_gmt":"2024-08-20T15:17:45","slug":"16529","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"\/?p=16529","title":{"rendered":"Relic Neutrinos and the gravitational potential field at the surface of the earth"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"9e3is\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"9e3is-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"9e3is-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"9e3is-0-0\">I have studied the gravitational energy density at the earth&#8217;s surface since about 1978. Just after Joe Weber told me to read all of Robert Forwards papers. g^2\/(8*pi*G) is roughly equivalent to the energy density of a magnetic field of 379 Tesla. I know that the gravitational potential field is turbulent at small scale and large. It can be any frequency. I felt part of if would be in equilibrium with air molecules. So what mass would a particle have if its average speed is the speed of light, and it behaved according to (1\/2) * m*v^2 = (3\/2)*k*T? About 0.025 eV. Now I follow Murray&#8217;s neutrino newsletter and that is a common mass for neutrinos of some types. <\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"7shg3\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"7shg3-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"7shg3-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"7shg3-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"denjk\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"denjk-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"denjk-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"denjk-0-0\">Today I am reading The Density of Relic Neutrinos Near the Surface of Earth by Andrei Gruzinov, Mehrdad Mirbabayi at <\/span><span data-offset-key=\"denjk-1-0\">https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/2403.03152<\/span><span data-offset-key=\"denjk-2-0\"> And they have two flavors of neutrinos.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"dqmun\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"dqmun-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"dqmun-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"dqmun-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"mm0r\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"mm0r-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"mm0r-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"mm0r-0-0\">I think neutrinos are solitons, bound pairs, superfluid at high density. (g^2\/(8*pi*G)) for g=9.8 m\/s^2 is 5.72540968E10 Pascal. Or it can be in units of Joules\/meter^3. <\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"dcaok\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"dcaok-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"dcaok-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"dcaok-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"dbg12\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"dbg12-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"dbg12-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"dbg12-0-0\">The mass for 0.025 eV in kilograms you divide by the electron charge and multiply by the speed of light squared. NIST calculator can be used <\/span><span data-offset-key=\"dbg12-1-0\">https:\/\/physics.nist.gov\/cgi-bin\/cuu\/Convert?exp=0&amp;num=0.025&amp;From=ev&amp;To=kg&amp;Action=Convert+value+and+show+factor<\/span><span data-offset-key=\"dbg12-2-0\"> It gives 4.45665480406975E-38 kg. The conversion factor is 1.78266192162790E-36 (Kilograms\/eV)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"6r65g\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"6r65g-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"6r65g-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"6r65g-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"e42l\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"e42l-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"e42l-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"e42l-0-0\">Google can do the calculation (5.72540968E10 Joules\/m^3)\/(0.025 eV) and gives (1.42940786E31 &#8220;neutrinos&#8221;\/meter^3).<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"4ait9\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"4ait9-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"4ait9-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"4ait9-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"6fqea\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"6fqea-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"6fqea-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"6fqea-0-0\">If makes sense if neutrinos have mass and billions of years, the neutrinos will be near masses in equilibrium with atmospheres and fields. When I measured the speed of gravity a couple of decades ago, the only picture that made sense is the &#8220;mass&#8221; of the gravitational potential field was mostly already at the earth and new changes &#8220;diffuse&#8221; from the sun and moon to the earth at the speed of light. The whole solar system, the whole universe filled with neutrinos of many masses and sizes and speeds.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"2ahnl\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"2ahnl-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"2ahnl-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"2ahnl-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"c9rca\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"c9rca-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"c9rca-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"c9rca-0-0\">If you lift a mass in an acceleration field of (9.8 Meters\/Second^2) by one meter, that is (9.8 Joules\/Kilogram) for each meter of height. A Joule\/Kilogram converts to electronVolts\/atomicMassUnit by dividing by 1000*Avogadro*ElectronCharge which is 1000 times Faraday&#8217;s constant (96,485.33212 Coulombs\/Mole) at <\/span><span data-offset-key=\"c9rca-1-0\">https:\/\/physics.nist.gov\/cgi-bin\/cuu\/Value?eqf<\/span><span data-offset-key=\"c9rca-2-0\">|<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"4kpt7\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"4kpt7-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"4kpt7-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"4kpt7-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"7qj0g\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"7qj0g-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"7qj0g-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"7qj0g-0-0\">NIST people are not very sensitive to the needs of the world. They apparently want every one of the 8.2 Billion humans to memorize an endless series of abbreviations, units, rules, approximations. Google people do try to do conversion and solve word problems, but their people are scattered over many divisions and trying to work in a commercial corporation doing things for the good of all humans. It mostly does not work.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"d9202\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"d9202-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"d9202-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"d9202-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"6dggn\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"6dggn-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"6dggn-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"6dggn-0-0\">(9.8 Joules)\/(1.602176634E-19 Joules\/eV) = 6.11667889E19 eV)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"n31d\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"n31d-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"n31d-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"n31d-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"8dk4\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"8dk4-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"8dk4-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"8dk4-0-0\">(9.8 Joules)\/((1.602176634E-19 Joules\/eV)*(1000*6.02214076E23 (particles\/KiloMole))) = 1.01569843E-7 electronVolts per atomic mass unit<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"4a909\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"4a909-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"4a909-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"4a909-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"99gru\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"99gru-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"99gru-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"99gru-0-0\">about the mass of one proton and one neutron.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"9dhta\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"9dhta-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"9dhta-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"9dhta-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"mot0\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"mot0-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"mot0-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"mot0-0-0\">101.569843 nanoElectron Volts per amu, per meter height, to lift things<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"f54us\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"f54us-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"f54us-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"f54us-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"fpnsb\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"fpnsb-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"fpnsb-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"fpnsb-0-0\">The gravitational potential field is fine grained, moves at the speed of light and gravity, only transmits tiny amounts of energy per collision, has a gradient that gives exactly the correct acceleration field &#8211; a precise gravitational acceleration. And that is consistent with atomic clock variations with gravitational potential and velocity for all satellite and earth bound tests.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"curfc\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"curfc-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"curfc-0-0\">\n<p><span data-offset-key=\"curfc-0-0\">Is the gravitational potential field made of a mass spectrum of dynamic relic neutrinos moving near the speed of light? Why not?\u00a0 And what happens when you try to move mass near the speed of light near a planet of sun?\u00a0 It is different than if you get out of the near field of the planet or sun.\u00a0 Maybe someone can check. But the sun&#8217;s potential field is larger. And the Milky Way larger still.\u00a0 And the universe potential is about c^2 and that would mean someone could estimate the time needed if it is relic neutrinos. The space between planets has larger masses with electrons and protons and ions, dust and molecules. I keep thinking of &#8220;the universe grinds exceedingly fine&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Robert Foreward&#8217;s dissertation is &#8220;Detectors for Dynamic Gravitational Fields&#8221;.\u00a0 He starts by saying gravity and electromagnetism can be combined by simply changing units and being consistent. But that meant (for me) spending decades to find ways to have all units and all knowledge accessible in a global open Internet.\u00a0 So poor humans do not have to memorize this stuff.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"tupo\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"tupo-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"tupo-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"tupo-0-0\">Filed as (Relic Neutrinos and the gravitational potential field at the surface of the earth)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"66dch\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"66dch-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"66dch-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"66dch-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"5l5o7\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"5l5o7-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"5l5o7-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"5l5o7-0-0\">Richard Collins, The Internet Foundation<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"70j35\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"70j35-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"70j35-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"70j35-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"580al\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"580al-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"580al-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"580al-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"3\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"74pfp\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"895r6\" data-offset-key=\"74pfp-0-0\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have studied the gravitational energy density at the earth&#8217;s surface since about 1978. Just after Joe Weber told me to read all of Robert Forwards papers. g^2\/(8*pi*G) is roughly equivalent to the energy density of a magnetic field of 379 Tesla. I know that the gravitational potential field is turbulent at small scale and <br \/><a class=\"read-more-button\" href=\"\/?p=16529\">Read More &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[73,72,35],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16529","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-all-knowledge","category-all-languages","category-electromagnetic-gravitational-field"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16529","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=16529"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16529\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":16535,"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16529\/revisions\/16535"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=16529"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=16529"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=16529"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}