{"id":14686,"date":"2024-04-20T13:17:45","date_gmt":"2024-04-20T13:17:45","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=14686"},"modified":"2024-04-20T13:50:39","modified_gmt":"2024-04-20T13:50:39","slug":"google-and-the-search-engines-the-llms-and-database-can-all-query-translation-ids-and-tell-users-those-ids-for-sharing-and-collaboration","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"\/?p=14686","title":{"rendered":"Translation ids for global open resources. Grok means &#8220;to do the whole of things&#8221;."},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"dc0f7\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"dc0f7-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"dc0f7-0-0\">Translation ids for global open resources.\u00a0 Grok means &#8220;to do the whole of things&#8221;.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"27pca\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"27pca-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"27pca-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"27pca-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"9jvnn\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"9jvnn-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"9jvnn-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"9jvnn-0-0\">If I search for &#8220;the sun&#8221; in millions of places on the Internet, I get back a bunch of text and pictures usually and a few videos. On Google (&#8220;the sun&#8221;) gives 1.02 Billion entry points. But almost none of that is accessible, and almost none of it has been stabilized even to a word level or term level.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"9il9m\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"9il9m-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"9il9m-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"9il9m-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"6pucf\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"6pucf-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"6pucf-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"6pucf-0-0\">Searches COULD provide users with a &#8220;translation id&#8221; or &#8220;query id&#8221; where the common search for &#8220;the sun&#8221; is made into a permanently assigned global id that will be given to you when you search.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"eicnp\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"eicnp-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"eicnp-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"eicnp-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"eekcc\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"eekcc-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"eekcc-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"eekcc-0-0\">Now there is only one English string &#8220;the speed of light&#8221;. It has equivalents, or ought to, in every living human language. But it is NOT all those strings, aliases, names, attributes, parameters, links and stuff. It is (translation id-&#8220;0000000000000001&#8221;) and then that is what you actually search. And that is what is the starting point for a global open resource network for all knowledge.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"2k5j5\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"2k5j5-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"2k5j5-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"2k5j5-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"afsv3\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"afsv3-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"afsv3-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"afsv3-0-0\">Now I just heard a hundred million voices and movements. Yes, I know it is a lot. I have worked on this for a long time, and know that things can take decades. But you start with a few.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"bvug5\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"bvug5-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"bvug5-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"bvug5-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"4g4r0\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"4g4r0-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"4g4r0-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"4g4r0-0-0\">[ I would move parts of Google Search and Google AI out of <\/span><span data-offset-key=\"4g4r0-1-0\">Google com into a separate open organization.\u00a0 <\/span><span data-offset-key=\"4g4r0-2-0\">Gemini is scattered everywhere, but it will grow fastest as an open project, not a football chased about by department heads all chasing bonuses, perks and retirement, whatever they do there.]<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"et7f7\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"et7f7-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"et7f7-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"et7f7-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"atkk\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"atkk-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"atkk-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"atkk-0-0\">It is not hard. EM could do it, but he should stay focused on getting done ONE or TWO main things.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"2gavo\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"2gavo-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"2gavo-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"2gavo-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"70rdl\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"70rdl-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"70rdl-0-0\">If I search for &#8220;remote sensing&#8221; that can be assigned a unique translation id &#8211; if it has not be searched before &#8211; <strong>somewhere in the world, in some language.<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"fuael\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"fuael-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"fuael-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"fuael-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"558jq\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"558jq-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"558jq-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"558jq-0-0\">A person in Bangladesh goes to Google and writes<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"79amr\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"79amr-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"79amr-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"79amr-0-0\">&#8220;\u0986\u09ae\u09be\u0995\u09c7 \u098f\u0995\u099f\u09bf \u09ad\u09be\u09b2 \u0995\u09be\u099c \u0996\u09c1\u0981\u099c\u09c7 \u09aa\u09c7\u09a4\u09c7 \u09b8\u09be\u09b9\u09be\u09af\u09cd\u09af \u0995\u09b0\u09c1\u09a8&#8221; which I think means &#8220;help me find a good job&#8221;.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"1kof7\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"1kof7-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"1kof7-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"1kof7-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"uros\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"uros-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"uros-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"uros-0-0\">If no one in the world had ever searched that unique string in Bengali or English or other language before, it could automatically be assigned a permanent unique &#8220;translation id&#8221;. In real time it can be a starting point ,and it the user asks for updates, they could say &#8220;keep me informed. If &#8220;neutrino telescopes&#8221; changes &#8211; that unique translation id in all human languages would be monitored and shared openly, not everyone disconnected.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-offset-key=\"uros-0-0\"><\/div>\n<div data-offset-key=\"uros-0-0\">Right now, every query in each language, is duplicated many time, millions. And those are all treated as different. Those terms are embedded in the logs at the search companies and many of them are driven by advertising, but there are many that are not.<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"5u2gr\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"5u2gr-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"5u2gr-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"5u2gr-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"bkr31\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"bkr31-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"bkr31-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"bkr31-0-0\">If I were administering a global database, I would work with LLM groups, and put in a few resources to start. The key is to start creating a &#8220;global open resource&#8221; and just get started with linking all the databases by fewer strings and codes.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"q4h7\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"q4h7-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"q4h7-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"q4h7-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"cd899\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"cd899-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"cd899-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"cd899-0-0\">Google, Microsoft, Amazon &#8211; are powerful but scattering their efforts and are built to NOT help the world. Only to enrich themselves. That is the model of business information systems and management we got from the 1800&#8217;s and before. I can show that the human-in-the-loop accounting and corporate systems are an algorithm with finite and traceable rules of operation, and they have <strong>no<\/strong> protections to prevent a &#8220;corporation&#8221; from only enriching a few.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"5f2pd\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"5f2pd-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"5f2pd-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"5f2pd-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"7kqnm\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"7kqnm-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"7kqnm-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"7kqnm-0-0\">Now Library of Congress is NOT a global open resource. It is owned and operated by the US Congress for its own purposes first, and only casually or not at all for the human species. I did not use their &#8220;Authority Lists&#8221; for the Internet &#8212; mostly because they are slaves to Congress and it only cares about politics. If LOC were a true national resource for the United States, it would be part of an independent agency for global communication and knowledge. I know that it should not stop there. Because when you try to optimize for a few private beneficiaries in the United States as we do now (politics as usual) it will never be allowed to help all countries and all humans.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-offset-key=\"7kqnm-0-0\"><\/div>\n<div data-offset-key=\"7kqnm-0-0\">I am so tired, this is just a placeholder. If Twitter(x) had real tools not leftover buttons, it could have Grok and other groups help make X real. Grok mean &#8220;to do the whole of things&#8221;.<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"1ta92\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"1ta92-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"1ta92-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"1ta92-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"br2km\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"br2km-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"br2km-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"br2km-0-0\">Richard Collins, The Internet Foundation<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"1\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"8ij3a\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"81p1f\" data-offset-key=\"8ij3a-0-0\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Translation ids for global open resources.\u00a0 Grok means &#8220;to do the whole of things&#8221;. \u00a0 If I search for &#8220;the sun&#8221; in millions of places on the Internet, I get back a bunch of text and pictures usually and a few videos. On Google (&#8220;the sun&#8221;) gives 1.02 Billion entry points. 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